BROWSE
townland
Doire Fhéinne
genitive: Dhoire Fhéinne
non-validated name (What is this?)
(Irish)
Derrainy
(English)

Hierarchy

county

barony

civil parish

Explanatory note

  • Gaeilge

    (oak-)wood of (the) roving band of warrior-hunters

    Is deacair a bheith cinnte faoi bhunleagan Gaeilge an logainm seo de bharr na fianaise béarlaithe a bheith ábhairín débhríoch. Bunaithe ar fhuaimniú an lae inniu, ina bhfuil an bhéim ar an dara siolla, a mholaimid **Doire Fhéinne** anseo. Ginideach uatha den fhocal **fiann** atá sa cháilitheoir (leagan iolra den fhocal céanna a thugann ainm na laochra **na Fianna** dúinn). Ní réitíonn an fhoirm áitiúil a breacadh san Ainmleabhar .i. ‘*An Doireán Aoidhche*’ leis an bhfianaise stairiúil.

    Tá an focal **fiann** “roving band of warrior-hunters” le fáil i logainmneacha eile ar fud na tíre, m.sh. *bf* **Coill Fhéinne** “wood of (the) roving band…” (#30752) i gContae Luimnigh; *bf* **Corr na Féinne** “the round hill of the roving band…” (#4795) i gContae an Chabháin; *abh* **Abha na Féinne** “the river of the roving band…” (#1394773) i gContae Chiarraí; foirmíocht charraige darb ainm **Bord na bhFiann** “the table of Na Fianna” (#1414738) i gCiarraí (*Fin Mac Cool’s Table* SO agus *The King's Table* atá air seo i mBéarla); tuama meigiliteach darb ainm **Leaba na bhFiann** “the bed of Na Fianna” (#1394445) i gCiarraí freisin.

  • English

    (oak-)wood of (the) roving band of warrior-hunters

    It is difficult to be certain about the Irish form of this placename as the surviving anglicized evidence is somewhat ambiguous. Based on the modern pronunciation of the name in which the stress falls on the second syllable, the version recommended here is **Doire Fhéinne**. The second element in this recommended form is the gen. sg. of the word **fiann** (the plural form of which, **na Fianna**, gives us the name of the famous troops associated with Fionn mac Cumhaill). The Irish form recommended by members of the Ordnance Survey topographical staff in 1839, ‘*An Doireán Aoidhche*’, cannot be reconciled with the rest of the historical evidence.

    **Fiann** “roving band of warrior-hunters” occurs in other placenames around the country, e.g. *bf* **Coill Fhéinne** “wood of (the) roving band…” (#30752) in County Limerick, angl. *Killeany*; *bf* **Corr na Féinne** “the round hill of the roving band…” (#4795) in County Cavan, angl. *Cornafean*; *abh* **Abha na Féinne** “the river of the roving band…” (#1394773) in County Kerry, angl. *Owennafeana River*; a rock formation known as **Bord na bhFiann** “the table of Na Fianna” (#1414738) in Kerry, angl. *Fin Mac Cool’s Table* or *The King's Table*; a megalithic tomb called **Leaba na bhFiann** “the bed of Na Fianna” (#1394445), also in Kerry; etc.

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52.976, -8.37998latitude, longitude
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Historical references

1660c
Derene
BSD (Ga) Leathanach: 223
1685
Deriney
Hib. Del. Nóta: (Ga)
1815
Dereny
litir
TAB
1819
Dereney
Larkin (Ga)
1830
Dereney
TAB
1830
Dereny-Mountain
TAB Leathanach: 25
1839
Derryneely
GJP:AL Leathanach: Ga066,24
1839
Dereney
Larkin Map:AL Leathanach: Ga066,24
1839
Derrainy
Burke, J.:AL Leathanach: Ga066,24
1839
Derrainy
Hulett, Rev. H.B.:AL Leathanach: Ga066,24
1839
Derrainy
Counsellor Reid:AL (Cl) Leathanach: Ga066,24
1839
Derrainy
"recte Derrineeha" [OD Nóta];
OD:AL Leathanach: Ga066,24
1839
An doirean oidhche, 'little oak wood of the night'
OD:AL Leathanach: Ga066,24
1839
An Doireán Aoidhche
pl:AL Leathanach: Ga066,24
1839
[Derrainy]
"three divisions viz. Reiganbhramig to the north, Loughhill in the centre and Loughnapuilla to the west" [Desc. Rem.];
Desc. Rem.:AL Leathanach: Ga066,24
1839
Derrainy
BS:AL Leathanach: Ga066,24
2000
ˌdeˈreːniː
Áit.

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